Novice deals?

Never heard of the Mack Machine, but that means nothing, there are hundreds of builders out there. I did do a google search and came up with Seth Ciferri / Alex Mack shader...if that be the case, i doubt they will even sell to you if your not a shop artist and able to provide proof.

There is post in this thread about a Ebay seller named Kylin..I think those are good machines,Ive heard a few other comment on them, for the money you cant really go wrong. Also, I myself like the hildebrandts..again, you cant go wrong, they work good, cost effective, and when you have enough to purchase those Danny Fowler's then you do it.

"http://www.worldwidetattoo.ca/tattoo-products/tattoo-machines-and-parts

note; this site requires you to be a pro to purchase from."

World wide Tattoo is local to vancouver and I shop there all the time without a proffesional licence. but it may depend on your state. here in vancouver bc there is no laws around tattooing but if you have a shop you have to go by health standards.