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    • #14076
      Vickyniki
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      Hi guy, another stupid question here for the masters.

      I usually move my hand fast while lining a tattoo but seems to me that before arriving to the end of the line It gets short of ink. The line seems thiner at the end of it, but it looks clean and nicely steady. If I slow down my speed line aren’t that great. So, I read about the cutback machine and the information I found is that the front spring is shorter making this a cutback machine. Now my dummie question is: Isn’t a short front spring a liner?

      I know this probably is in the book but I won’t probably get until next weekend and this question is eating me since two days ago.

      Thank you so much.

    • #17921

      @Vickyniki wrote:

      Hi guy, another stupid question here for the masters.

      I usually move my hand fast while lining a tattoo but seems to me that before arriving to the end of the line It gets short of ink. The line seems thiner at the end of it, but it looks clean and nicely steady. If I slow down my speed line aren’t that great. So, I read about the cutback machine and the information I found is that the front spring is shorter making this a cutback machine. Now my dummie question is: Isn’t a short front spring a liner?

      I know this probably is in the book but I won’t probably get until next weekend and this question is eating me since two days ago.

      Thank you so much.

      I determine Liner/Shader by the gap between the contact screw and the front spring using US coins: Dime for lining, Nickel for shading.
      A cutback machine can be set as either a liner or a shader. The front spring is shorter, but it is much shorter, and the position of the contact screw is also different. On a cutback machine, the contact spring will be lining up with the center of the front coil, not somewhere around the top edge of the coil :)

      This is a cutback:
      http://bicknee.com/shoppingcart/images/TCB%20Liner%20Machine.jpg

      This is not:
      http://www.malltreks.com/tattoo_machine_black_revirce_cutback__2.jpg

      This could be set as a cutback by adjusting the height for the contact screw mount:
      http://bicknee.com/shoppingcart/images/T-Top%20Cust.%20Machine.jpg

    • #17922
      Viper65
      Member

      @KitchenWizard wrote:

      @Vickyniki wrote:

      Hi guy, another stupid question here for the masters.

      I usually move my hand fast while lining a tattoo but seems to me that before arriving to the end of the line It gets short of ink. The line seems thiner at the end of it, but it looks clean and nicely steady. If I slow down my speed line aren’t that great. So, I read about the cutback machine and the information I found is that the front spring is shorter making this a cutback machine. Now my dummie question is: Isn’t a short front spring a liner?

      I know this probably is in the book but I won’t probably get until next weekend and this question is eating me since two days ago.

      Thank you so much.

      I determine Liner/Shader by the gap between the contact screw and the front spring using US coins: Dime for lining, Nickel for shading.
      A cutback machine can be set as either a liner or a shader. The front spring is shorter, but it is much shorter, and the position of the contact screw is also different. On a cutback machine, the contact spring will be lining up with the center of the front coil, not somewhere around the top edge of the coil :)

      This is a cutback:
      http://bicknee.com/shoppingcart/images/TCB%20Liner%20Machine.jpg

      This is not:
      http://www.malltreks.com/tattoo_machine_black_revirce_cutback__2.jpg

      This could be set as a cutback by adjusting the height for the contact screw mount:
      http://bicknee.com/shoppingcart/images/T-Top%20Cust.%20Machine.jpg

      That last picture is what i had envisioned and thought was a “typical” cut back… :ugeek:

    • #17923

      @Viper65 wrote:

      That last picture is what i had envisioned and thought was a “typical” cut back… :ugeek:

      The last one could be set up to be a cutback, but its current setting, is not a cutback :)

    • #17924
      Vickyniki
      Member

      Thank you guys.

    • #17925
      voodoo
      Member

      Some frames just need a shorter front spring..

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